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What Is The Feedback On Royale Residency Floors in Sushant Lok Phase - II, Sec 57


By Unregistered Visitors, Section Ask Questions
Posted on Thu Jun 18, 2009 at 02:25:26 AM EST

Hi,

I am looking for ready to move 2 BHK options in Gurgaon in the price range of Rs 40-45L. The location should be near the corridor in Gurgaon which has local transportation available. Preferably in a gated community.

I visited Sushant Lok Phase II in Sec 57 recently, and visited some of the ready to move options available in Royale Residency by Ansals.

Under original allotment by the builder, these floors are available at decent prices.

Wanted to have feedback on this locality and if this might be a good decision. A 3 BHK (1200 sq ft) is available at 47-48L.

Any comments?

Thanks.

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Pay to get the information (none / 0) (#70)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Jul 02, 2009 at 09:15:16 AM EST

Hey Guys, Please don't vent your anger at me, I am no NRI and am based at Bangalore. If you are not willing to help me, it is fine by me because I will be visiting Delhi Next week myself for this purpose.So Guys, keep your head cool and don't behave in childish manner and make fool for yourself.


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Persistance Paid. (none / 0) (#56)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Jul 01, 2009 at 04:48:35 AM EST

It seems persistance paid against the NRI (at least, that is what he claimed) as after repeated attempts, the NRI could not come up with his name or the details about the unit he alleged to have bought in India.

Shame! Fake NRI.



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EMAAR in Mohali (none / 0) (#60)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Jul 01, 2009 at 01:50:38 PM EST

That person is not NRI. He is american citizen living in NewYork who once happened to live in India. He is posting all over the internet for getting duped by some builder called EMAAR in mohali who took 46 lakh cash from him in 2006 with promise to hand over in 2009. Till date nothing happened at site and person is desperate. Internet does not begin and end with gurgaonscoop. He may or may not get his money back, but he sure has put doubts in mind of many NRIs on whose money all these property prices were jacked up to create the bubble.


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Wrong. (none / 0) (#61)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Jul 01, 2009 at 02:50:25 PM EST

American Citizens can not buy property in India. Only NRIs and PIOs can buy property in India. If he bought and EMAAR did not give, they rightly did.

India can not be owned by Americans.

The person, if you are true, is creating misgivings in the mind of NRIs.



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This (none / 0) (#68)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Jul 02, 2009 at 06:08:22 AM EST

This dalla does not even know what is PIO. He already made a jackass of himself.


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This (none / 0) (#72)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 12:58:41 AM EST

A family of Dallas, are we and if not, then for God-sake, don't use such cheap language which bloody lets all Indian down in the eyes of the rest of the World. Either be civilised or else don't post silly comments that makes our great Country looks  ------.


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Avoid using cheap language for your own sake (none / 0) (#71)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Jul 02, 2009 at 09:25:21 AM EST

it is guys like you, who are letting us down on this platform. Why can't you convey your message in a civilised manner. That would be credible form of posting on this platform. say it, whatever you feel like but in a decent manner so that people take your comments seriously.


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Wrong. (none / 0) (#64)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Jul 02, 2009 at 01:30:08 AM EST

American citizens of Indian origin can buy property in India. Therefore, you are totally misinformed on this front and secondly my property is not in Mohali. It is in NCR area and finally, we are not debating about India Vs West.
We are purely debating here ethical Vs non-ethical behaviour and anyone attempting to distort this fact has got be kidding and making fool of himself.As far as India is concerned, I love India more than you can ever dream of. May India flourish and become the largest Super-power of the World, which I am sure that you can help, by being ethically sound.  



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Builders are getting desperate (none / 0) (#59)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Jul 01, 2009 at 01:16:42 PM EST

Builders are getting desperate. People are loving it.


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Living in fool paradise (none / 0) (#57)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Jul 01, 2009 at 11:08:37 AM EST

You are living in a fools paradise. Why should someone provide you with his personal details?


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Blue Collar Person (none / 0) (#62)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Jul 01, 2009 at 02:55:59 PM EST

If you are a NRI, you are writing incorrect english. It should be, 'Living in a fool's paradise'.

The way you are writing indicates, that either you are a blue collar worker or a dish washer.

Keep washing dishes in New Jersey, but do not think that after earning money in the US, you are above Indians. Indians can employ people like you.



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Not interested in stooping low (none / 0) (#65)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Jul 02, 2009 at 01:58:56 AM EST

For your benefit, I am departing from the current debate thus allowing unethical/immoral School of thought to win quite intentionally and have some peaceful nights.

So, Good Bye and be ethical and help India to grow enormously.



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Blue collar (none / 0) (#63)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Jul 02, 2009 at 12:14:28 AM EST

The english language usage is immaterial, It is making your blood boil that really matters. I don't need to do dish-washing. There is enough support on this front for me.


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Barking dog! (none / 0) (#58)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Jul 01, 2009 at 12:05:15 PM EST

Of course, you will not provide because there is none. Fool, why would you libel yourself without substantiating it?

Check into a local mental hospital.



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Everybody (none / 0) (#33)
by raul on Sun Jun 28, 2009 at 09:05:45 AM EST

It appears that NRIs and foreigners, most of which are believed to be speculators and few may be genuine end users also, are becoming favourite fall guys for everyone in real estate. Genuine end users were blaming them for creating the bubble and making houses unaffordable for everyone, and now builders are blaming them for backing out and not helping sustain the bubble.

Only ready to move in properties are safe to put money on in these times. Who knows about real financial health of these builders specially after satyam saga.



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Choices ! (none / 0) (#35)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Jun 28, 2009 at 11:30:04 AM EST

Sure, people have all sort of choices. Whether to go for Real -Estate or not. Or, to go for ready to move in properties or properties to be built. But, I hate people blaming India if they make wrong choices.

Satyam Saga has given India a black eye, but overall India is doing great. Please check out the article in Today's TOI,

<a href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Business/Indian-stocks-best-performers-in-2009/articleshow/4711990.cms">http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Business/Indian-stocks-best-performers-in-2009/articleshow/471199 0.cms</a>



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hello (none / 0) (#16)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jun 23, 2009 at 06:13:54 AM EST

u won,t able to get 2BHK commos In Palam Vihar 35 to 38 lacs...the price is minimum Rs 3500/- & 1,25,000/- for parking & 1,65,000/- for meter charge & 40000/- for security....total cost come around  Rs 42,00,000/- Lac...2bhk area is 1100 sq ft & 3 bhk is 1342 sq ft

the other option avaliable in palam vihar is Best tech park view.....2 bhk area is 1400 sq ft@ 32-3400 sq ft....3bhk is 1642-1740 sqft @3000-3300...depend upon the location...



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Luxotica appartments (none / 0) (#15)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jun 23, 2009 at 02:39:33 AM EST

What is the ffedback on luxotica appartments of todays group @ 46 l


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Consider EMAAR MGF (none / 0) (#4)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Jun 18, 2009 at 01:41:30 PM EST

You may consider EMAAR MGF new project called "Emerald Floors" in sector 65, which they are accepting the bookings at this time. A 3 BHK and 3 bath option is being sold at Rs. 42 lac at this time. They will give possession in 2 yrs. time, which can be trusted. To me this is the best option available at this time in Gurgaon. Because it is going to be one of the best development around as this group is known for.  Once its developed prices will be at least 1.5 times more for the similar property in the area.


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Looking 3 bR for 15-18 lacs in gurgaon (none / 0) (#9)
by luckyindialucky on Sat Jun 20, 2009 at 06:09:54 PM EST

Please suggest good 3BR oprions in excellent locality for 15-18 lacs. Should be good builder and clean property.


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Cheaper options (none / 0) (#11)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Jun 21, 2009 at 12:09:53 AM EST

Minimum 3BHK rates are 26-27 lakhs... that too in projects for possession in 3 years.

If you can gather 2 more ppl... for same requirement and then build separate floors... you can get the 3BHK for 20 lakhs... that too in 4-5 years.

For cheaper deals than this... wait for govt. schemes. If you are lucky(amongst 3-5%), you can get property within ur range.



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slum (none / 0) (#10)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sat Jun 20, 2009 at 08:17:17 PM EST

I thought congress will remove all slum from INDIA by 2012


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Re: Consider EMAAR (none / 0) (#6)
by dpst on Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 12:21:43 AM EST

While I would not deny Emaar is a good builder but couple of observations - (1)Trust - Please see Sec 76 Emaar Project launched about 9 months ago (2)Check out covered area of emaar flats and compare with today homes launched in central gurgaon - calculate psft cost and see if emaar makes sense (3) site development license has been received but building plans not yet approved for emaar floors - please read clause 4 of builder agreement. While I cannot recommend you a good propoerty but emaar still holds its risks.


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EMAAR RISK (none / 0) (#8)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 12:52:02 PM EST

The only risk to me is there might be a delay of six months or at worst 12 months. They are not going to run away with your money. If that happens then you can imagine the plight of real estate for that matter the whole Indian economy. In that case a 3 BHK may be available for 15 L or so. Also, do not compare sq. ft. prices with other 3rd rate construction, which is provided by most of othe developers including DLF, Unitech, Ansals, Parsvanath, Omaxe etc. Once this colony is ready you will see the difference.


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Emaar is also a cheater (none / 0) (#75)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Nov 12, 2009 at 11:05:21 PM EST

I think Emaar has little better image in market because they have not completed any project so far ( may be 1 or 2 max ). I have bought two unis in Emaar premier floor and I was told that their would not be any PLC for my units at the time of booking. Now after 30 days, they have send me a demand letter asking for 5% BSP as "open Space " PLC. My booked units are not facing any open space / park but have back side facing park. Why I am charged PLC ? It is simply greed by builder like Emaar to charge anything once they recieve booking amount. Avoid Emaar...


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Negative (none / 0) (#1)
by dumchickdumchick on Thu Jun 18, 2009 at 04:02:58 AM EST

To be honest, I've seen the royal residency option and I would strongly recommend you not to take that option.

Please look into my review of Shalimar homes by Ansals in the same locality. There was a comment from me sometime ago.

40- 45 lakhs is a very nice budget for a 2 BHK in GGN. Look at options in Sector 56, 57, Rosewood city (Wembley), Lilac from SS group

In that budget there are also many new project launches. I would recommend you to search more options

Dumdum



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thanks (none / 0) (#3)
by vaibhav1 on Thu Jun 18, 2009 at 05:51:26 AM EST

thanks for the prompt response, really appreciate it.  I did go through your comment on Shalimar Homes earlier.  The reason I am inclined towards this is that no ready to move options are available in my budget.  Wembley has 48-49L but then it is located at a place where not even a rickshaw is available.  Sec 57 has no options other than Ansals.  Options available at sub 45L levels are all newly launched with no visibility on delivery likelihood and I am not keen on taking that risk in this real estate scenario.


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more thoughts (none / 0) (#7)
by dumchickdumchick on Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 01:53:28 AM EST

Vaibhav

I know Wembley Estate is a bit far, but in a few years it will be walking distance from the metro station. I think if you look at the 3 years + horizon, rosewood area and sohna road area will be very well occupied and connected. I think you can bring it down to 46 during negotiations

Did you look at Lilac from SS group. They have 2 BHKs in the 40 lakh range. Seeing the construction speed and current state, I think 6 months to possession is reasonable. I personally do not like the SS group but the project looked good, since it is a gated group housing kind of a complex with a club.

I think 45 lakhs may also get you a house in Maple heights in sushant lok 1

2 BHK options in group housing societies in sector 56 are there in that price range. Why dont you also look at Jal vayu vihar in Sector 30 for an older 3 BHK in the 45-47 lakh range ( but these houses are old)

Jul vayu tower, devinder vihar, rail vihar etc have some options in 2 BHK in the sub 50 lakh range. My research was in March/April 2009 so I am not sure if the same prices hold ?

Another thing, if you are ok taking a risk then consider this. Invest in a new project like Tulip Orange (33 lakhs 3 BHK) on Sohna Road or Uniworld Residences sohna road (35 lakhs bigger 2 bhk) and stay on rent for 3 years. At max you will pay 2 lakhs a year on rent. So three years means 6 lakhs of rent. This will again keep the overall cost in the same 40 to 45 lakh range plus give you an option of construction linked payment

Another thought in my mind : 45 lakhs may get you a good 2 BHK in a DDA complex in Dwarka in Delhi. You may give that a thought as well



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hi (none / 0) (#13)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Jun 22, 2009 at 09:19:31 AM EST

hi, you appeared to gone through immense Research, do you mind to share your email ID or mobile number to talk. I tried to send you personal message but couldn't login as gurgaonscoop is not accepting new registration.

many thanks,
sandeep
0044-7824511116



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Warning NRI's to stay away from Indian Builders (none / 0) (#14)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Jun 22, 2009 at 12:35:30 PM EST

If you are thinking of buying in India, please don't. Many are already bleeding in the hands of Indian Builders. Please contact me for more details on- scm46@hotmail.co.uk

I have already taken Omaxe to Court and a group of 10 NRI's from UK and USA will be filing case against Assotech in National Consumer Court in the first week of JUly. Literally, millions are already bleeding at the hands of Indian builders and mostly it is NRI's only. I am warning you because you are based in UK as well. Indian Builders are basically day light-robbers.



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Warning NRI's to stay away from Indian Builders (none / 0) (#17)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jun 23, 2009 at 10:22:51 AM EST

I am warning all Indians living in UK to stay away from Indian builders because they are nothing more than white-collar thieves and they are again coming to UK on 27th and 28th of June to make fool of new clients. Having already become their victim, I would like to inform you:-

  1. Their contracts are purely one-sided, more like blackmailing you type.
  2. They will never honour their own terms and conditions and 2/3 years delay is their norm. If you try to get some information from them after paying them 95% money, forget it, they would not even respond to you.
  3. At the time of possession, they will ask you for extra 10/15% extra money under the false pretext of increase in super area increase, while not giving you an inch extra space.I am already fighting Assotech for this through Consumer Court.
In NCR, only ATS would not ask you for extra payment and would stick to their original agreement. ALl other Builders in NCR would try to sting you under this pretext. In case of Omaxe Nile project in Gurgaon, they nearly asked for 6 lakhs extra money.Also, if you want to exit from Omaxe project, then they would like 40% share of original deposit.

So, friends- these buggers are again coming to UK and for God-sake, stay away from them unless of course you are willing to lose your peace of mind
and your hard-earned money. Most projects to be delivered by last year have not been delivered so far.



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Who cares (none / 0) (#21)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Jun 26, 2009 at 05:49:03 AM EST

NRIs are in fact part of the problem of this overinflated property super bubble. It will be really good for everyone if they stay away for sometime. It will good for the real estate, common man, and for themselves also. But lure of 300% return in 3 years is sometimes too good to resist.


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300% profit in 3 years (none / 0) (#22)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Jun 26, 2009 at 10:31:47 AM EST

The perception of 300% profit only appears in the mind of a mad man and not in reality. I am prepared to sell my apartment due for possession in September,09 at my cost plus just 10% on top. I booked this Apartment 3 years back. I don't want 300% profit, I am happy with 3.33% profit per annum- which is way less than some idiot seems to be suggesting.

 



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Why? (none / 0) (#25)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sat Jun 27, 2009 at 09:28:06 AM EST

Why are you willing to sell at 10% profit and not at the current market value at a reduction of 60-70% of the purchase price? Did anybody guarantee you the profit? Have not people lost houses in the record number in the US due to economic meltdown? In fact, people in India are suffering for the irresponsible behavior of the banks in the US.

We were doing all right before the US meltdown.

In fact, India is still growing at more than 6% that the US will like to trade-in anytime. I do not know why builders association in India, if exists, is not taking you to the court for libel.

Think!



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Fooling through Sample flat (none / 0) (#41)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 02:18:46 AM EST

This is for those of you who think that the picture perfect sample flat that you've just seen would be the actual product that you'll get when moving in. You definitely need to consider the fineprint after being shown a glamourous model flat and before taking the big decision to buy.
If you don't take an informed decision, chances are that you can experience glaring differences between the sample flat and your dream home.Perfect example of fooling property buyers and this is not even the comments of an NRI. This is the factual statement as per one of the leading papers of Delhi. Now go and sue them as well.



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Fooling through Sample flat (none / 0) (#40)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 02:17:47 AM EST

This is for those of you who think that the picture perfect sample flat that you've just seen would be the actual product that you'll get when moving in. You definitely need to consider the fineprint after being shown a glamourous model flat and before taking the big decision to buy.
If you don't take an informed decision, chances are that you can experience glaring differences between the sample flat and your dream home.

Perfect example of fooling property buyers and this is not even the comments of an NRI. This is the factual statement as per one of the leading papers of Delhi. Now go and sue them as well.



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Logic behind 10% high price (none / 0) (#26)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sat Jun 27, 2009 at 04:26:28 PM EST

The american smarta$$ is willing to sell and take 3.33% annual return because dollar was 44 in 2006 and now is 48-49. He needs 10% extra to get back investment without loss.


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Full of it ! (none / 0) (#27)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sat Jun 27, 2009 at 05:17:04 PM EST

If American smart ass can give me his investments together with other 10 NRIs, I would see the possibility of taking these people to court as a concerned citizen who lost on their advise as not to buy in India. I lost heavily on their libel towards Indian builders.

I hope they will come up with the information.



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Hiding true identity (none / 0) (#30)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Jun 28, 2009 at 05:44:30 AM EST

Unlike you, I am not going to swear or get involved into mud-slinging because I can already see you losing your head either as a Builder or a broker, who sees me as real threat to their business because I am exposing you lot very badly on this platform.You cannot be a genunine investor having concerns for Indian Builders because currently all the investors whether based in India or abroad are bleeding at the hands of Indian builders,as such I believe that you are hiding your true identity either as a Builder or Broker and are seriously upset with me for giving detailed description of how you are stinging future unsuspecting investors.


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Barking dogs seldom bite. (none / 0) (#31)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Jun 28, 2009 at 06:18:06 AM EST

Instead of barking all the time, please give the information about you.

In the court, you will have a chance to tell to the judge the shitty state of affairs in the US. How trillions of dollars are lost in the housing market, and 'desi-angreez' like you are taking it like eunichs, and want profit in India.

I do not know if you are a genuine NRI or a taliban or a Chinese trying to distort Indian affairs. Once again, please give name of the builder/unit number/place and your ID in the US.

Did Reseve Bank of India give you any guarantee against currency flutuation?

You are nothing but a barking dog who will never bite.



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Astray dog always bites and needs to put down (none / 0) (#42)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 02:37:41 AM EST

Where does the question of currency flctuation come from in a debate regarding unethical behaviour of Indian Builders. I am a very much Indian perhaps even more than you can ever imagine in your wildest dreams and have maximum regards for Indian judiciary which is doing an excellent job.

The next time you visit your place of worship, please pray almighty God for moral sanity because this is what we all need on our judgement day if at all a thick skinned person like you understand what I am talking about. Please tell God- I want to be morally sound rather than financially sound. See what happens then?



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Frustrated, are you not? (none / 0) (#43)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 05:00:44 AM EST

This is your best shot at me after more than 24 hours of thinking! How deplorable?

If you are a genuine NRI and want to sell your property, I can give you 30% of your purchase price. This is the best market value of the day. Look around, the property prices are really down. Make no mistakes about it, this is far better than intake in most of the US states where houses are foreclosing and people are walking out with nothing. Or, contracts of the Ponzi schemes that are a laughing matter of all comedy TV shows, NBC or ABC or CBC. You are the only one proud of the US contracts.

To allay your fears, I am no builder or closely or remotely connected with one by caste, colour, religion, shape or size.

By accepting my offer, you will be morally sound if not financially.

So, what do you think?

Deal or No Deal!



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You freebee (none / 0) (#46)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 09:17:57 AM EST

Why even pay 30%, you freebee. You can have it absolutely free of charge and if you care to post your name and address, I will make sure to deliver all the documents in person, duly endorsed in your favour.


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Here! Here! (none / 0) (#47)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:28:52 AM EST

Pandit Ram Prakash, Mathura Wale,
Mohalla No. 4, Corner -Gali Bharon,
Opposite Hardiwar Railway Station,
Hardiwar.



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Nickname- Stoop Low Singh Mathura Wale (none / 0) (#48)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 01:39:38 AM EST

I had given my property documents to the local Courier firm to be delivered to you but unfortunately the Courier firm could not validate your address, therefore I have now instructed the Courier firm to hand over documents to you c/o your local police station. The local SHO readily consented to my request and fortunately enough, not only he knew you well, he very clearly also knew your nickname Mr Stoop Low Singh. He asked me what are the documents and I told him that Iam going to give my property to Mr freebee for nothing. On hearing this, he assured me that your property documents will be safe with me and I could collect them back whenever it is convenient for me to do so. He told me that there is absolutely no possibility on your part even to make an attempt to collect these documents because you are already a runner and amongest the top in the most wanted list. So- Hard luck once again Mr Freebee/Stooplow Singh.The only alternative for you is now to contact Unitech/Omaxe/DLF/ATS and may be - they might grant your wish to accquire property for peanuts in NCR or even absolutely free due to your loyality for them..If you don't understand the term freebee- widely used in the West- it means - MUFTKHORE, like you in Hindi.


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hehe (none / 0) (#73)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:32:53 AM EST

Now this is getting funny. Everyone knows this heat is coming up with frustration, almost everyone is frustrated. I am frustrated because I have bought one suncity villa in Jaipur for my father who is going to retire very soon but its not completed yet(supposed to be finished in 2008) so have to look for some rental property. I am frustrated because I am looking for one plot in sec 83, vatika but prices quoted are around 44 lakhs for 240 sq yard which is too high for a young couple. I am frustrated because I am finding it difficult to believe property agents/builders.

So guys heat will be coming out, watch this space !

regards,
sandeep (phone/ identity provided on request)



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haha (none / 0) (#74)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 04:03:18 PM EST

Welcome! This is the right site to spill your beans.

Once you are finished here, your heat will be completely out. In fact, you will be so cold that you will need a blanket instead of a plot.

Nobody will request your phone/identity for the  virtue of this site.



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Simply! (none / 0) (#49)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 05:18:33 AM EST

Simply, you do not have any property. In hindi this is called, 'FUDDE BAAZ'. You were trying to tarnish Indian Builders intially. Then you wanted to sell property at 10% profit. So, make up your mind if Indian builders are bad or 10% profit is too less. Or you are trying to make profit on Indian builders after throwing mud at them that you can not do it in the US for fear of being sued for libel. This is the true face of people like you who are 'desi-angreez.'

Builders can not be bad if you can get 10% or more profit. In west, this is too difficult for you to understand.

In your case, there is no property and you are throwing mud at Indians- are you a taliban or a Chinese?

Jai Hind!



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Atleast read the subject (none / 0) (#50)
by dumchickdumchick on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 06:06:21 AM EST

Guys, if you dont want to listen to any thing else atleast please take that this thread was about somebody wanting some feedback on sushant lok 3 houses.

These threads are stored in the system and often are a source of information for people looking for information about certain properties in the future.... This discussion is adding no value to the this particular thread.

Why dont you guys create a new thread to discuss these opinions. It will be helpful for future users like you to look for relevant information in the future.

Thanks,

dumdum



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Dumb Dumb or Chick Chick or both Dumchickdumchick (none / 0) (#51)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 08:16:00 AM EST

Whereas a future Regulatory Real -Estate Authority has to put a stop to the activities of the unsrupulous builders, the same authority should put a stop to unsruplous buyers including NRIs, if any. These unsrupulous buyers want to make profit, but if the market goes down they want to call names like day-time robbers or white collar thiefs and want to exit the market.

These people if they do the same in a foreign country are sued or beaten (if they have no assets) as it is happening in some countries

Read all the notes written by this person.

Is it so hard for a dumb person or too disturbing for a chick woman?



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Time for positive feedback (none / 0) (#55)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Jul 01, 2009 at 01:41:11 AM EST

Why don't you come up with some pro-builders comments in order to have some healthy debate.

Your life's motto seems to be Chor, Chatur and Thugs. So, for God-sake, you must come up with some goods points about Indian Builders as well in order to neutralise rather than getting your blood boiled for nothing.

Let's us all have other side of the coin as well
and who better for all this, than yourselves. So, let's hear something good about Indian builders as well because we have heard so much negative things aboout them. It is time for some positive feed back now.



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NRI bashing (none / 0) (#66)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Jul 02, 2009 at 03:43:32 AM EST

There was so much written against NRI's on this platform but nothing good was written about builders despite my request to do so.

I need to know all this because I am keen to buy a property in Gurgaon with a maximum budget of 60 lakhs. I need minimum 3 Bedroom plus a servant room. So, please help me firstly to choose the most ethical builder and secondly the most viable project, delivery no later than September,09.



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Ethical ? (none / 0) (#69)
by dumchickdumchick on Thu Jul 02, 2009 at 08:01:59 AM EST

No builder is .... probably you can choose the best amoungst the worst

Look at track record and if possible try to know about the financial health of the builder from balance sheet and cash situation. But no kind of builder can be trusted 100%

And thats the reason why people keep saying look for Ready to move in property atleast that saves you from the hassle of waiting and negotiating with the builder for delivery

If you willing to take the risk for a lower cost then choose an upcoming project

Dumdum



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funny (none / 0) (#52)
by dumchickdumchick on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 11:02:01 AM EST

Hey why are you after my name ?  

My alias here has got nothing to with the word "dumb" or "chick"

"dumchickdumchickdumdum"  is just a sound, which I love, that my drums make when I play them

And by the way, in all probability i support your views on how NRIs and so called "investors" are screwing the market for the real end users

All I've told you that this thread was made for someother reason and we should carry out this NRI debate on a fresh thread and keep the discussion free of name calling

And another thing, I am not an NRI, if thats what you think. I live in delhi and work in GGN (cybercity, dlf phase 2) and have just purchased, a few months back, a house for self use in ggn, into which I expect to move once i get the possession.



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Wow ! (none / 0) (#53)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 11:39:24 AM EST

You bought a house in JRD. I am not sure if JRD is same as this site. If not, please stay away.

Do you want traffic to stop in India if you bought a property in JRD?

Since a NRI made his initial comments on this site, further clarification belong here whether you like it or not. Perhaps, his initial comments should not had been displayed here.

Keep your rules with yourself. If you agree with my point, good but neither traffic is going to stop in India for you nor your name gives any impression of smartness. I am not after your name, but I wonder why would a person pick dum and chick in his name and that too twice. I hope you are not a 'blonde', a name given to them for being dumb women.

Clarify? But, again you should had started a seperate thread, as this site does not belong to that or now different rules ?



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stupid (none / 0) (#54)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 08:10:17 PM EST

most stupid thoughts I ever heard on this board, go get a life man


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Astray dog (none / 0) (#37)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 12:52:19 AM EST

Astray dogs get put down by the authorities.


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Stop it guys... (none / 0) (#32)
by dumchickdumchick on Sun Jun 28, 2009 at 08:38:51 AM EST

Guys this is not a mature way of having a debate.

Please avoid using such mud slinging terms on this forum.

Each of you may have genuine issues but this is not the way to have a healthy debate

Moderators : Please take cognizance of this issue. Another example of why we need to have only registered users post messages on this forum. For the sake of accountability please allow only registered users ( who have accepted the terms and conditions ) post on this forum



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To Dumchickdumchick (none / 0) (#34)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Jun 28, 2009 at 11:03:11 AM EST

I did not find anything wrong in the debate or obnoxious about it. Should you find it so offending, perhaps start wearing  petticoat and not visit this site.

What can fake names on this site,like yours, can accomplish?, and what sort of rules you have in mind?

Perhaps moderator can start giving IP addresses of the computers instead of fake names.



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Chill (none / 0) (#36)
by dumchickdumchick on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 12:48:35 AM EST

Again, these forums are to discuss real estate and other issues.

Calling someone a "smarta*" or a "barking dog" proves no point in a discussion. It only makes the discussion heated and unhealthy.

Thats all i said.

Regarding registered users : when people sign up as a user there is a "Terms and conditions" that one selects and accepts. You may not know this but a person is responsible (including legally) for what one writes and says through his or her comments.

But more important that this is that if you have a name (whether real or an alias) on the forum then atleast it is clear that I am talking to the same person each time. Every time one sees a post from an "Unregistered user" it is not clear whether one is talking to the same person or not.

Anyways lets have healthy discussion based on facts and not try to prove each other wrong by calling names like smarta* , barking dog etc...



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Wait a minute! (none / 0) (#44)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 06:19:56 AM EST

I did not know a heated discussion will upset you so much as I do not know who you are. If you are a female or it, I apologise.

A better way of identification is IP # of the computer, and possibly cable subscriber. A person otherwise can log in with few different names on the same computer. Sometimes it can be different people in the household and at other times, the same person can log in with different names to give supporting views to his/her arguments. Further, a name does not tell about the gender of a person, and same views can be disturbing to someone other than a male. Sometimes, views like yours are soft to males.

Take for example your name, it has two times word dum and two times word chick. So, for a person replying it is a dilemma if you are dumb or chick?

Thanks for your home made rules.



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Moral bankruptcy Vs ethically led community (none / 0) (#39)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 01:47:07 AM EST

Although, you are 100% right but unfortunately this is not going to happen because builders of NCR ( except ATS) are both morally and ethically bankrupt. Compared to NCR area, builders of Bombay/Poona are million times better. Atleast, they don't attemt to sting you by 10/15% at the time of possession under the pretext of Super area increase. Similarly, ATS of Noida based have not done so and the senior management of ATS are strongly advocating- Real estate Regulator while all others are opposing this.Unfortunatly, morally bankrupt builders are  are tarnishing the image of India but without realisation on their part and some of them are even coming on this platform to defend themselves under fake identity.


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no problem (none / 0) (#45)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 09:05:03 AM EST

goood discussion


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Truth hurts/Croocks Builders of India (none / 0) (#28)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Jun 28, 2009 at 04:56:26 AM EST

Be my guest, take me to the Court sooner rather than later. Not only, I will win the case comfortably, I will win the case without involving an Advocate and simply by producing millions of documentary evidences from all those investors both from India as well as abroad, who are your victims.I know you are a builder yourselves and you don't like being exposed this way. Remember, it is behaviour like your's that prompted one of the distinguished judge of Supreme Court of India to comment- that even God cannot help this Country. If you have missed this headline news, then please contact Indian Media about this, which covered this story about a year ago.Despite what has happend in the West in the past or is currently happending, Western Business Houses are still honouring their contractual obligations, without fail and in total and are morally and ethically sound, unlike Indian Builders. Theoeritcally, people might say anything about the West but in reality, you would have difficulty in tracing a single case where Companies in the West are not honouring their agreements even today despite facing all sorts of problems themselves. Come and live in the West for even 6 months, then you would realise that how ethical the west is on the whole. I know that truth hurts and you are no exception.    


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Information please? (none / 0) (#29)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Jun 28, 2009 at 05:42:46 AM EST

Thank you for your commentary.

Now, give me the information of your property in India, the name of the builder- the unit number and your residence address in the USA. Let a judge decide.

It seems every idiot like you who earns first $100/- in the US starts thinking above Indian law.
There is a need for me to fix 'desi-angreez' like you.



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Undeniable facts about Indian Builders (none / 0) (#38)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 01:12:16 AM EST

It is not a debate about India vs USA. it is a debate about croocks ( Indian builders) and the undeniable fact that Indian builders are white-collar robbers. Will deliver two years late. Will
say at the time of possession that super area has increased. Their contracts are purely one sided. These facts are totally undeniable and anyone saying otherwise got to be absolutely misleading
due to vested interest.
 



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Forget about profits (none / 0) (#24)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sat Jun 27, 2009 at 05:53:09 AM EST

Have to be lucky if someone is willing to takeover that headache at even 75% of cost that you paid 3 years ago. Specially in current situation which is going to last for another 3 years at the least.


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Cheating Builders (none / 0) (#19)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jun 23, 2009 at 12:51:03 PM EST

I completely agree with earlier comment regarding the builders. They are complete crooks. I am already suffereing at the hands of DLF. No builder in India is clean.

If you still want a house in India, please go ahead but be prepared for the a difficult and stressful next 3-5 years.

All the best!



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Warning NRI's to stay away from Indian Builders (none / 0) (#18)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jun 23, 2009 at 11:50:28 AM EST

One thing missing from the above posting is that if you buy an apartment measuring 3000 sq feet, you will only get 2000 in return. Where does the rest goes, your guess is as good as mine because these Builders would never tell you that. They would say, it is a common area ( wasted) but when you look at the apartments, the common area measures no more than 100 sq feet. So you are getting a fair deal despite paying them in advance.


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can try palam vihar (none / 0) (#5)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Jun 18, 2009 at 01:55:35 PM EST

Hi

You can also try Palam Vihar. you should get a 2 bhk flat in cosmos appartment for 35-38 lakhs or you can also check buildr floor which should be availble in same price tag.
 



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Here is the thread (none / 0) (#2)
by dumchickdumchick on Thu Jun 18, 2009 at 04:07:53 AM EST

here is that thread !

http://www.gurgaonscoop.com/story/2009/3/7/8011/76471



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SS group (none / 0) (#12)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Jun 21, 2009 at 11:52:22 AM EST

The ss group floors look like houses for maids , drivers and sweepers...

Pls have a look at the construction quality of the nearby occupied floors.

Did someone compared ss group with emaar



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regarding Vatika (none / 0) (#20)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Jun 25, 2009 at 09:02:39 AM EST

is not it that Vatika Independent floor good option. with respect to cost and builder...i know there may be a issue with respect to location. but i think over all Vatika is also a good option.


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